1,3-Bis(triphenylphosphonium-ylidyl)cyclotetraphosphines The title compounds 3a , b result from the condensation of the ylidyldichlorophosphines Ph3PCR? PCl2 1a , b (R = Me, 3-Tol) with phenyl bis(trimethylsilyl)phosphine 2 . Analysis of the 31P-NMR spectra and the X-ray structure investigation of 3a demonstrate a folding of the four-membered ring and an all-trans orientation of the substituents.