Thermal transformation of quaternary compounds in NaF–CaF2–AlF3 system

Details of quaternary compounds formation in the system NaF–CaF₂–AlF₃ are specified. To achieve this aim, the samples of phases NaCaAlF₆ and Na₂Ca₃Al₂F₁₄ have been obtained by high-temperature solid-phase synthesis. Their thermal behavior when heated up to 800 °C has been studied using the methods of high-temperature X-ray diffraction (XRD) and thermal analysis (TA). The system under consideration can be regarded as a quasibinary section CaF₂–NaAlF₄, where at T=745–750 °C invariant equilibrium is implemented with the phases CaF₂–NaCaAlF₆–Na₂Ca₃Al₂F₁₄–(liquid melt)–(NaAlF₄). The peculiarity of the equilibrium is NaAlF₄ metastability at normal pressure. Below the equilibrium temperature the quaternary phase Na₂Ca₃Al₂F₁₄ is stable and NaCaAlF₆ above this temperature. The phase NaCaAlF₆ fixed by rapid quenching from high temperatures and when heated up to 640 °C decomposes, yielding Na₂Ca₃Al₂F₁₄. Further heating in vacuum at temperature up to 740 °C results in decomposition of Na₂Ca₃Al₂F₁₄ into CaF₂ and Na₃AlF₆. The expected reverse transformation of Na₂Ca₃Al₂F₁₄ into NaCaAlF₆ has not been observed under experimental conditions. Transformations in bulk samples reveal direct and reverse transformation of quaternary phases.

Synopsis

Thermal transformation of the quaternary compounds in system (NaF–CaF₂–AlF₃) was investigated using high-temperature X-ray diffraction (XRD) and thermal analysis (TA). In the system the invariant equilibrium is implemented with the phases CaF₂–NaCaAlF₆–Na₂Ca₃Al₂F₁₄–(liquid melt)–(NaAlF₄) at T=745–750 °C.     

Glass–ceramic Li2S–P2S5 electrolytes prepared by a single step ball billing process and their application for all-solid-state lithium–ion batteries

We report that glass–ceramic Li₂S–P₂S₅ electrolytes can be prepared by a single step ball milling (SSBM) process. Mechanical ball milling of the xLi₂S·(100 − x)P₂S₅ system at 55 °C produced crystalline glass–ceramic materials exhibiting high Li-ion conductivity over 10⁻³ S cm⁻¹ at room temperature with a wide electrochemical stability window of 5 V. Silicon nanoparticles were evaluated as anode material in a solid-state Li battery employing the glass–ceramic electrolyte produced by the SSBM process and showed outstanding cycling stability.     

Phases in the Al–Yb–Zn system between 25 and 50 at% ytterbium

Phases YbZn_1−xAl_x, YbZn_2−xAl_x and YbZn_3−xAl_x were studied by electron microprobe analysis and X-ray single crystal and powder methods. The compound YbZn_0.8Al_0.2 crystallizes with the CsCl-type, a=3.635(2) Å. Four phases were investigated by single crystal X-ray diffraction: YbZn_0.996(6)Al_1.004(6), MgNi₂-type, P6₃/mmc, a=5.573(1), c=18.051(3) Å, Z=8, wR2=0.040 and YbZn_0.88(3)Al_1.12(3), MgCu₂-type, , a=7.860(2) Å, Z=8, wR2=0.060, both showing mixed Zn/Al occupancy; YbZn_2.50(1)Al_0.50(1), CeNi₃-type, P6₃/mmc, a=5.496(1), c=17.336(2) Å, Z=6, wR2=0.036 and YbZn_1.92(2)Al_1.08(2), PuNi₃- or NbBe₃-type, , a=5.499(1), c=26.134(5) Å, Z=9, wR2=0.053, where the zinc atoms are ordered in the CaCu₅ segment, while share the sites with aluminium in the Laves phase segment. In the pseudobinary section YbZn_2−xAl_x four structures occur in sequence with increasing the electron concentration: CeCu₂ or KHg₂ (x=0–0.3), MgZn₂ (x=0.33–0.54), MgNi₂ (x=0.68–1.01) and MgCu₂ (x=1.12–2). This sequence agrees with the results of first-principles calculations, already reported in the literature for other similar series. In the YbZn_3−xAl_x section CeNi₃-type compounds occur with x=0.40–0.88 followed by PuNi₃-type compounds with x=0.92–1.10. The stability ranges of these phases are related to the valence electron concentration.     

Synthese et propriétés de conduction ionique des phases Li8−2xCaxCeO6 (0 < x ≤ 0,5) et Li6CaCeO6

The solid solution Li_8−2xCa_xCeO₆ (0 < x ≤ 0,5) and the definite phase Li₆CaCeO₆ have been obtained at 800°C through a study of Li---Ca---Ce---O system. Electrical measurements on the doped phases Li^tetr.₆ [Li_2-2xCa_xCe□]^oct.O₆ show that the conductivity varies slightly with the creation of vacancies in the octahedral layers. This result unambiguously confirms the following diffusion mechanism: the conduction is assumed essentially by lithium ions located in the tetrahedral layers. The compound Li₆CaCeO₆ is isostructural with Li₆In₂O₆. The cell is trigonal, Å, c = 10,603 Å, c/a = 1,058₇, and Z = 6. This new quaternary phase, which belongs to the same structural family of oxides of the type Li₈MO₆, either pure or doped with calcium, may be represented by the formula Li^tetr.₆[Ca Ce□]^oct.O₆. Electrical and structural data are correlated for this compound.     

Phase relations in the system K2MoO4–KPO3–MoO3–Bi2O3: A new phosphate K3Bi5(PO4)6

Phase equilibrium in the pseudo-quaternary system K₂O–MoO₃–P₂O₅–Bi₂O₃ was studied as three-component solvent K₂MoO₄–KPO₃–MoO₃ containing 15 mol% Bi₂O₃ during slow cooling and spontaneous crystallization. The results of the investigation were shown on a composition diagram, which indicates the crystallization fields of K₂Bi(PO₄)(MoO₄), K₅Bi(MoO₄)₄, BiPO₄ and K₃Bi₅(PO₄)₆. New phosphate K₃Bi₅(PO₄)₆ was characterized by single-crystal X-ray diffraction (space group C2/c, a=17.680(4), b=6.9370(14), c=18.700(4) Å, β=113.79(3)°) and FTIR spectroscopy. The possibility of lone electron pair stereoactivity of bismuth was suggested using the calculations of characteristics of the Voronoi–Dirichlet polyhedra for K₃Bi₅(PO₄)₆ and K₂Bi(PO₄)(MoO₄).     

Production of hyperlithiated Li2F by a laser ablation of LiF–Li3N mixture

Lithium-excess binary clusters Li_nF_n−1 (n=2–9) were detected by photoionization time-of-flight mass spectrometry in a supersonic cluster beam generated by a laser ablation of a solid mixture of lithium fluoride and nitride. Laser power dependence of the Li₂F⁺ signal intensity has indicated that the ionization energy of the hyperlithiated Li₂F molecule is lower than 4.66 eV. The theoretical vertical ionization energy obtained by the CCSD(T)/6-311+G(d)//B3LYP/6-311+G(d) calculations are 4.47 eV. No nitrogen-containing clusters were detected. The absence of Li₄N is ascribed to the exothermicity of the reaction, 2Li₃N→N₂+Li₆.     

New results in the ammonolysis of hexafluoro-cyclo-triphosphazene: Crystal structure of P3N3F5–NH–P3N3F4NH2

The reaction of hexafluoro-cyclo-triphosphazene P₃N₃F₆ with ammonia in acetonitrile has been studied. New compounds, (2-imino-2,4,4,6,6-pentafluoro-2λ⁵,4λ⁵,6λ⁵-cyclo-triphosphaza-1,3,5-trienyl)-2-amino-4,4,6,6-tetrafluoro-2λ⁵,4λ⁵,6λ⁵-cyclo-triphosphaza-1,3,5-triene, P₃N₃F₅–NH–P₃N₃F₄NH₂ (2) and cis and trans isomers of non-gem-2,4-diamino-2,4,6,6-tetrafluoro-2λ⁵,4λ⁵,6λ⁵-cyclo-triphosphaza-1,3,5-triene, P₃N₃F₄(NH₂)₂ (4, 5)_, were detected by GC/MS, and ³¹P NMR spectroscopy in reaction mixtures. X-ray diffraction analysis of P₃N₃F₅–NH–P₃N₃F₄NH₂ (2) revealed two conformational polymorphs, 2A and 2B, the latter being built up of two different conformers that were further denoted as 2B_a (the same as the single conformer in 2A) and 2B_b. The compound 2 was characterized by spectroscopic methods and its 2D potential energy surface (PES) was described by density functional theory computations depending on two dihedral angles. The calculated PES spans over 30 kJ/mol in energy including 8 local minima and all first and second order saddle points. The occurrence of the two experimentally observed conformers 2B_a and 2B_b seems to be governed by crystal packing effects.     

Crystal Structure of Ternary Molybdate Rb5FeHf(MoO4)6 — a New Phase in the Rb2MoO4-Fe2(MoO4)3-Hf(MoO4)2 System

Physicochemical analysis (XRPA, DTA) was used to study phase equilibria in a ternary salt system Rb₂MoO₄-Fe₂(MoO₄)₃-Hf(MoO₄)₂ in the subsolidus region. Ternary molybdates with compositions 5:1:3, 5:1:2, and 1:1:1 have been found and synthesized. Crystal and thermal characteristics have been determined. Single crystals of the ternary molybdate Rb₅FeHf(MoO₄)₆ with a composition of 5:1:2 were grown. The crystal structure of the compound was solved using X-ray diffractometry (CAD-4 automatic diffractometer, MoK _α radiation, 1766 F(hkl), R = 0.0298). Hexagonal crystals with unit cell dimensions: a = b = 10.124(1) Å, c =15.135(3) Å, V = 1343.4(4) ų, Z = 2, ρ_calc = 4.008 g/cm³, space group P6₃. The mixed three-dimensional framework of the structure is formed from two sorts of MoO₄ tetrahedra and Fe and Hf octahedra linked through their common O-vertices. Rubidium atoms of three varieties occupy the large voids of the framework.Original Russian Text Copyright © 2004 by B. G. Bazarov, R. F. Klevtsova, A. D. Tsyrendorzhieva, L. A. Glinaskaya, and Zh. G. Bazarova__________Translated from Zhurnal Strukturnoi Khimii, Vol. 45, No. 6, pp. 1038–1043, November–December, 2004.     

Ca3Ni8In4—An Ordered Noncentrosymmetric Variant of the BaLi4 Type

The title compound was synthesized by reacting the elements in an arc-melting apparatus under purified argon and subsequent annealing at 870 K. Ca₃Ni₈In₄ was investigated using X-ray diffraction on both powders and single crystals: P6₃mc, a=898.9(1) pm, c=752.2(2) pm, wR2=0.0591, 327 F² values, and 35 parameters. This structure is an ordered, noncentrosymmetric variant of the BaLi₄ type. The nickel and indium atoms build a complex three-dimensional [Ni₈In₄] polyanion in which the calcium atoms fill distorted hexagonal channels. To a first approximation the formula may be written as (3 Ca²⁺)⁶⁺ [Ni₈In₄]⁶⁻. Within the polyanion the Ni1, Ni3, and Ni4 atoms form one-dimensional cluster units which extend in the c direction while the Ni2 atoms have only indium neighbors in a distorted tetrahedral coordination. The Ni–Ni distances in the cluster range from 241 to 266 pm. The cluster units are surrounded and interconnected by indium atoms. The group– subgroup relation from centrosymmetric BaLi₄ to noncentrosymmetric Ca₃Ni₈In₄ is presented. Chemical bonding in Ca₃Ni₈In₄ and the structural relation with Lu₃Co_7.77Sn₄, Ca₃Au_6.61Ga_4.39, and Co₂Al₅ is briefly discussed.     

X-ray diffraction and Mössbauer spectroscopy studies of LiFe0.5Ti1.5O4 – A new primitive cubic ordered spinel

LiFe_0.5Ti_1.5O₄ was synthesized by solid-state reaction carried out at 900 °C in flowing argon atmosphere, followed by rapid quenching of the reaction product to room temperature. The compound has been characterized by X-ray powder diffraction (XRD) and ⁵⁷Fe Mössbauer effect spectroscopy (MES). It crystallizes in the space group P4₃32, a = 8.4048(1) Å. Results from Rietveld structural refinement indicated 1:3 cation ordering on the octahedral sites: Li occupies the octahedral (4b) sites, Ti occupies the octahedral (12d) sites, while the tetrahedral (8c) sites have mixed (Fe/Li) occupancy. A small, about 5%, inversion of Fe on the (4b) sites has been detected. The MES data is consistent with cation distribution and oxidation state of Fe, determined from the structural data.The title compound is thermally unstable in air atmosphere. At 800 °C it transforms to a mixture of two Fe³⁺ containing phases – a face centred cubic spinel Li_(1+y)/2Fe_(5−3y)/2Ti_yO₄ and a Li_(z−1)/2Fe_(7−3z)/2Ti_zO₅ – pseudobrookite. The major product of thermal treatment at 1000 °C is a ramsdellite type lithium titanium iron(III) oxide, accompanied by traces of rutile and pseudobrookite.     

Phase diagram of the La–Si binary system under high pressure and the structures of superconducting LaSi5 and LaSi10

The La–Si binary phase diagram under a high pressure of 13.5 GPa was experimentally constructed. New superconducting silicides LaSi₅ and LaSi₁₀ were found, which have peritectic decomposition temperatures at 1000 and 750 °C, respectively. The single crystal X-ray structural analysis revealed that there are two polymorphs in LaSi₅. The α-form obtained by heating a molar mixture of LaSi₂ and 3 Si at about 700 °C or by a rapid cooling from 1000 °C under pressure crystallizes with the space group C2/m and the lattice parameters a=15.11(3), b=4.032(6), c=8.26(1) Å, and β=109.11(1)°. The β-form obtained by a slow cooling from 800–950 °C to 600 °C under pressure has the same space group but with slightly different lattice parameters, a=14.922(7), b=3.906(2), c=8.807(4) Å, and β=107.19(1)°. The β-form is formed during the incomplete transformation of the α-form on cooling, and has always been obtained as a mixture with the α-form. The compound can be characterized as a Zintl phase with a polyanionic framework with large tunnels running along the b axis hosting lanthanum ions. In the β-form, three of the five Si sites are disordered. The two polymorphs contain one dimensional sila-polyacene ribbons, Si ladder polymer, running along the b axis. The α-form showed superconductivity with the transition temperature T_c of 11.5 K. LaSi₁₀ crystallizes with the space group 6₃/mmc and the lattice parameters a=9.623(4), c=4.723(3) Å. It is composed of La containing Si₁₈ polyhedra (La@Si₁₈) of hexagonal beer-barrel shape, which form straight columns by stacking along the c-axis via face sharing. One-dimensional columns of La@Si₁₈ barrels are edge-shared, and bundled with infinite Si trigonal bipyramid chains via corner sharing. The Si atoms in the straight chains have a five-fold coordination. LaSi₁₀ became a superconductor with T_c=6.7 K. The ab initio calculation of the electric band structures showed that α-LaSi₅ and LaSi₁₀ are metallic, and the conduction electrons mainly come from Si-3p orbitals.     

Structur–Composition Relations and Fractional Site Occupancy of New M5Ge4 Compounds in the System Ge–Ta–Zr

The new ternary phases Zr_4−xTa_1+xGe₄ (0.1<x<0.4) and Zr_2+xTa_3−xGe₄ (0.1<x<1.1) were prepared from the elements by arc melting and subsequent induction heating at 1400–1450°C. Single-crystal X-ray diffraction was used to determine their structures and to refine mixed site occupancies. Zr_4−xTa_1+xGe₄ was found to crystallize in the monoclinic space group P2₁/c (structure type: U₂Mo₃Si₄) and the compound Zr_2−xTa_3−xGe₄ shows orthorhombic symmetry (space group Pnma, structure type: Sm₅Ge₄). The close structural relationship between the two structures is discussed. Both phases exhibit pronounced differential fractional site occupancy of Ta and Zr on the metal sites and considerable composition ranges. Extended Hückel calculations were performed for various site occupancy models and Mulliken overlap populations for the different lattice sites of each structure were calculated for these models. The correlation of the cumulated Mulliken overlap populations and the atomic orbital populations with the actual site occupancies is discussed.     

[{(NiOH)2Mo10O36(PO4)Ti2}n]: a novel chainlike trimetal heteropolyanion based on pseudo-keggin fragments

A new mixed Mo/Ni/Ti heteropoly compound [C₅H₅NH]₅ [(NiOH)₂Mo₁₀O₃₆(PO₄)Ti₂] has been hydrothermally synthesized and structurally determined by the single-crystal X-ray diffraction. Black prismatic crystals crystallize in the monoclinic system, space group P2(1)/n, a=11.2075(2), b=37.8328(5) c=13.0888(1) Å, β=101.4580(10)°, M=2276.13, V=5439.19(13) ų, Z=4. Data were collected on a Siemens SMART CCD diffractometer at 293(2) K in the range of 1.68<θ<25.09° using the ω-scan technique (λ=0.71073 Å R(F)=0.0872 for 9621 reflections). The title compound contains a trimetal heteropolyanion polymer and “trans-titanium”-bridging pseudo-Keggin fragments linked to a chain.     

X-Ray Diffraction Study of Cs5(HSO4)3(H2PO4)2, a New Solid Acid with a Unique Hydrogen-Bond Network

Solid solution investigations in the CsHSO₄–CsH₂PO₄system, carried out as part of an ongoing effort to elucidate the relationship between proton conduction, hydrogen bonding, and phase transitions, yielded the new compound Cs₅(HSO₄)₃(H₂PO₄)₂. Single-crystal X-ray diffraction methods revealed that Cs₅(HSO₄)₃(H₂PO₄)₂crystallizes in space groupC2/c(or possiblyCc), has lattice parametersa=34.066(19) Å,b=7.661(4) Å,c=9.158(6) Å, andβ=90.44(6)°, a unit cell volume of 2389.9(24) ų, a density of 3.198 Mg m⁻³, and four formula units in the unit cell. Sixteen non-hydrogen atoms and five hydrogen sites were located in the asymmetric unit, the latter on the basis of geometric considerations rather than from Fourier difference maps. Refinement using anisotropic temperature factors for all non-hydrogen atoms and fixed isotropic temperature factors for all hydrogen atoms yielded residuals based onF²(weighted) andFvalues, respectively, of 0.0767 and 0.0340 for observed reflections [F²>2σ(F²)]. The structure contains layers of (CsH₂XO₄)₂that alternate with layers of (CsHXO₄)₃, whereXis P or S. The arrangement of Cs, H, andXO₄groups within the two types of layers is almost identical to that in the end-member compounds, CsH₂PO₄and CsHSO₄-II, respectively. Although P and S each reside on two of the threeXatom sites in Cs₅(HSO₄)₃(H₂PO₄)₂, the number of protons in the structure appears fixed. In addition, the correlation of S–O and S–OH bond distances with O···O distances, where the latter represents the distance between two hydrogen-bonded oxygen atoms, was determined from a review of literature data.     

3D [Ag-Mg] polyanionic frameworks in the La4Ag10Mg3 and La4Ag10.3Mg12 new ternary compounds

The crystal structures of two new ternary phases, La₄Ag₁₀Mg₃ and La₄Ag_10.3Mg₁₂, were refined from X-ray single crystal diffraction data. La₄Ag₁₀Mg₃ crystallizes in the Ca₄Au₁₀In₃ structure type, an ordered variant of the binary Zr₇Ni₁₀ compound: orthorhombic, Cmce, oS68, a=14.173(5), b=10.266(3), c=10.354(3) Å, Z=4, wR₂=0.0826, 676 F² values, 50 variables. La₄Ag_10.3Mg₁₂ represents a new structure type: orthorhombic, Cmmm, oS116-10.32, a=9.6130(3), b=24.9663(8), c=9.6333(2) Å, Z=4, wR₂=0.0403, 1185 F² values, 101 variables. The structural analysis of both compounds, highlighting a significant contraction of the Ag-Mg distances, suggests the existence of three-dimensional [Ag-Mg] networks hosting La atoms. LMTO calculations applied to La₄Ag₁₀Mg₃ indicate that the strongest bonds occur for Ag-Ag and Ag-Mg interactions, and confirm the presence of a 3D_∞[Ag₁₀Mg₃]^δ− polyanionic framework balanced by positively charged La atoms.     

Nb28Ni33.5Sb12.5, a New Representative of the X-phase

The first ternary compound in the Nb–Ni–Sb system, Nb₂₈Ni_33.5Sb_12.5, has been synthesized and its structure has been determined by single-crystal X-ray diffraction methods. Nb₂₈Ni_33.5(2)Sb_12.5(2) adopts the X-phase structure type (orthorhombic, space group Pnnm, Z=1, a=13.2334(5) Å, b=16.5065(7) Å, c=5.0337(2) Å), which belongs to the set of tetrahedrally close-packed (TCP) structures adopted by many intermetallic compounds. Typical of such TCP structures, the atoms reside in sites of high coordination number, with Ni and Sb in CN12 and Nb in CN14, -15, and -16 sites. The relative importance of various metal–metal bonding interactions is discussed on the basis of extended Hückel band structure calculations. Nb₂₈Ni_33.5Sb_12.5 displays metallic behavior with a room-temperature resistivity of 2.3×10⁻⁴ Ω cm.     

New insight in the structure–luminescence relationships of Ca9Eu(PO4)7

The double phosphate Ca₉Eu(PO₄)₇, obtained by solid state reaction, was found to be isotypic with Ca₃(PO₄)₂, with space group R3c and unit cell parameters a=10.4546(1) Å, c=37.4050(3) Å, V=3540.67(9) Å³, Z=6. The structure parameters refined using the Rietveld method showed that europium shares positions M1, M2 and M3 with calcium, contradicting previously published Mössbauer results. Low temperature luminescence under selective excitation of Eu³⁺ in Ca₉Y_1−xEu_x(PO₄)₇ and in Ca₉Eu(PO₄)₇ samples was studied, confirming the Eu³⁺ distribution into these sites. At 10 K, ⁵D₀→⁷F₀ emission lines of Eu³⁺ were observed at 578.5, 579.5, 580.1 nm for the M3, M1 and M2 sites, respectively. High temperature X-ray powder diffraction evidenced a second-order phase transition around 573 °C.     

Preparation and characterization of lithium ion-conducting glass-ceramics in the Li1 + xCrxGe2 − x(PO4)3 system

Li₂O–Cr₂O₃–GeO₂–P₂O₅ based glasses were synthesized by a conventional melt-quenching method and successfully converted into glass-ceramics through heat treatment. Experimental results of DTA, XRD, ac impedance techniques and FESEM indicated that Li_1.4Cr_0.4Ge_1.6(PO₄)₃ glass-ceramics treated at 900 °C for 12 h in the Li_1 + xCr_xGe_2 − x(PO₄)₃ (x = 0–0.8) system exhibited the best glass stability against crystallization and the highest ambient conductivity value of 6.81 × 10⁻⁴ S/cm with an activation energy as low as 26.9 kJ/mol. In addition, the Li_1.4Cr_0.4Ge_1.6(PO₄)₃ glass-ceramics displayed good chemical stability against lithium metal at room temperature. The good thermal and chemical stability, excellent conducting property, easy preparation and low cost make it promising to be used as solid-state electrolytes for all-solid-state lithium batteries.     

Synthesis and crystal structure analysis of Sr8Cu3In4N5 and Sr0.53Ba0.47CuN

Single crystals of new quaternary compounds Sr₈Cu₃In₄N₅ and Sr_0.53Ba_0.47CuN were prepared, respectively, from a Sr–Cu–In–Na melt under 7 MPa of N₂ and from a Sr–Ba–Cu–In–Na melt under 0.5 MPa of N₂ by slow cooling from 1023 to 823 K. The crystal structures were determined by single-crystal X-ray diffraction. Sr₈Cu₃In₄N₅ has an orthorhombic structure (space group, Immm, Z=2, a=3.8161(5) Å, b=12.437(2) Å, c=18.902(2) Å), and is isostructural with Ba₈Cu₃In₄N₅. It contains nitridocuprates of isolated units ⁰[CuN₂] and one-dimensional linear chains _∝¹[CuN_2/2] and one-dimensional indium clusters _∝¹[In₂In_2/2]. Sr_0.53Ba_0.47CuN crystallizes in an orthorhombic cell, space group Pbcm, Z=4, a=5.4763(7) Å, b=9.2274(12) Å, c=9.0772(12) Å. The structure contains infinite zig-zag chains _∝¹[CuN_2/2] which kink at every second nitrogen atom.     

New Layered Materials in the K–In–Ge–As System: K8In8Ge5As17and K5In5Ge5As14

Exploratory synthesis in the K–In–Ge–As system has yielded the unusual layered compounds K₈In₈Ge₅As₁₇(1) and K₅In₅Ge₅As₁₄(2), both of which contain In–Ge–As layers with interleaved potassium ions, Ge–Ge bonds, InAs₄tetrahedra, As–As bonds, and rows of Ge₂As₆dimers. Compound 1 has As₃groups, while compound 2 has infinite As ribbons on both faces of each layer. Unlike compound 1, compound 2 has substitutional defects where indium partially occupies each of the three independent germanium sites in the ratio of 1:5 for In:Ge. This partial occupancy makes 2 an electron-precise compound. The Ge(In)–Ge(In) bond of 2 is longer than the Ge–Ge bond of 1, and this bond lengthening effect was confirmed by performing DFT-MO calculations on the model compounds H₃Ge–GeH₃and H₃Ge–InH⁻₃. Possible implications of electron imprecise formulas determined by X-ray crystal structure determinations are discussed. Compound 1: space groupP2₁/cwitha=18.394 (8) Å,b=19.087 (7) Å,c=25.360 (3) Å,β=105.71 (2)°,V=8571 (4) ų, andD_calcd=4.45g/cm³forZ=4. Refinement on 4455 reflections yieldedR(R_w)=6.8%(7.8%). Compound 2: space groupC2/mwitha=40.00 (1) Å,b=3.925 (2) Å,c=10.299 (3),β=99.97 (2)°,V=1592 (1) ų, andD_calcd= 4.55g/cm³forZ=8. Refinement on 1206 reflections yieldedR(R_w)=5.6% (5.7%).