Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. LXII. Teilbromierte Carbosilane

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. LXII. Partial Brominated Carbosilanes The photobromination of 1 leads to compound 2 as well as to C-chlorinated derivatives if the time of reaction is prolonged. Compound 2 is also formed from (Br₂Si–CH₂)₃; Gl. (1) see ?Inhaltsübersicht”?. In a corresponding reaction (Cl₃Si–CH₂)₂SiCl₂ gives successively Cl₃Si–CHBr–SiCl₂–CH₂–SiCl₃, Cl₃Si–CBr₂–SiCl₂–CH₂–SiCl₃ and Cl₃Si–CCl₂–SiCl₂–CH₂–SiCl₃. (Cl₃Si)₂CBr₂ is accessible through the photobromination of (Cl₃Si)₂CH₂. The reactivity of the CBr₂-group is quite obvious in the reaction of Cl₂Si–CBr₂–SiCl₂–CH₂–SiCl₃ with LiAlH₄ yielding (H₃Si–CH₂)₂SiCl₂ as well as in the reaction of compound 2 with CH₃MgCl yielding [(CH₃)₂Si–CH₂]₃. By treatment of the SiH groups with bromine the preparation of compounds with the general formulas CH₃SiH_nBr_3?n; (H_3?nSiBr_n)₂CH₂; (H_3?nSiBr_n? CH₂)₂SiH_2?nBr_n; (H_2?nBr_nSi? CH₂)₃ and (H_3?nSiBr_n)₂CCl₂ is possible. Analysis of the nmr spectra shows that 1,3-Dibromo-1,3,5-trisilacyclohexane is formed to 67% in the trans and to 33% in the cis configuration; 1,3,5-Tribromo-1,3,5-trisilacyclohexane is formed to 80–90% in teh cis-trans configuration. The results of ¹H and ²⁹Si NMR investigations are reported.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. XXXIX. Teilchlorierte Carbosilane

1. Photochlorination in CCl₄ of the Si-chlorinated carbosilanes (Cl₃Si? CH₂)₂SiCl₂ and (Cl₂Si? CH₂)₃ leads to totally chlorinated compounds, e. g. (Cl₃Si? CCl₂)₂SiCl₂. After chlorination has started at one CH₂ group, formation of a CCl₂ group is preferred before another CH₂ group is involved into the reaction. Thus preparation of compounds a, b, c is possible. Cl₃Si? CCl₂? SiCl₂? CH₂? SiCl₃ (a) for (b) and (c) (see “Inhaltsübersicht”). SO₂Cl₂ (benzoyl peroxide) as chlorinating agent reacts more slowly, and opens an access to carbosilanes containing CHCl groups such as (d), Cl₃Si-CHCl? SiCl₂? CH₂? SiCl₃ (e). Reactions of compounds (a) to (d) with LiAlH₄ yields carbosilanes with SiH groups, and partially chlorinated C atoms. 2. By the high reactivity of Si? CCl₂? Si groups an exchange of Cl atoms of CCl groups in perchlorinated carbosilanes is possible for H atoms of Si? H groups in perhydrogenated carbosilanes, thus allowing the preparation of compounds containing CHCl and SiHCl groups, e. g. according to Gl.(1) (Inhaltsübersicht). Further reactions, formulated as the last equations in Inhaltsübersicht, are reported as well as the rearrangement of H₃Si? CHCl? SiH₃.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. XXX. Metallorganische Synthese cyclischer Carbosilane

This paper contains:

• 1 The synthesis of the 1.3-disilacyclopentenes (a)(b)⁽²⁾ and of the 1.3-disilacyclo-butane (c); formulas see above.
• 2 The synthesis of the 1.3-disilacyclopentane skeleton (d) and of the SiCl-functional derivatives (e) (f ) (g) (h) (i) as well as of SiH-containing derivatives, e.g. (j).
• 3 The chlorination of (i) with SO₂,Cl₂, yielding (k) and (l), and the formation of (m) from (k) with K-methypyrrolidine.
• 4 The synthesis of the spirane (n).
• 5 The synthesis of the ten-membered ring(o) and of the unsaturated derivatives (p)and (q). Besides the synthetic routes, spectroscopic data (ir, pmr, and mass spectra) of the cyclic compounds as well as of the intermediate products are given.

     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 90. Synthese C-verbrückter Carbosilane

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 90. Synthesis of C-linked Carbosilanes n-buLi metallates 1 to give 2 , which with phme₂SiCl (ph = C₆H_5, me = CH₃) forms 3 . This compound yields 4 with Br₂. Lithiation of 3 yields 5 which for sterical reasons cannot be substituted with phme₂SiCl. The spiro compounds 10 and 11 are available by treating 2 with (Brme₂Si)₂CH₂ or (Brme₂SiCH₂)₂-Sime₂, resp. By means of n-buLi the CBr group in 4 can be metallated. On warming to 20°C the lithiated compound eliminates LiBr via an highly reactive intermediate to form 12 , 12 shows an extraordinary stability of the Si? C fourmembered ring against HBr or Br₂     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 109. Reaktionen vollhydrierter Carbosilane mit Lithiumalkylen

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 109. Reactions of Perhydrogenated Carbosilanes with Alkyl-Lithium Compounds Si-hydrogenated linear carbosilanes react with MeLi or nBuLi to give the Si-alkylated derivatives. In contrast to the Si-methylated derivatives of (H₃Si? CH₂)₂SiH₂ 1 and (H₃Si)₂CH₂ 2 and to (Me₂Si? CH₂)₃ no lithiation of CH₂ groups is observed. Such, 1 with nBuLi yields nBuH₂Si? CH₂? SiH₂? CH₂? SiH₃ 5 and (nBuH₂Si? CH₂)₂SiH₂ 6 . 2 reacts with nBuLi to give nBuH₂Si? CH₂SiH₃ 7 and (nBuH₂Si)₂CH₂ 8 besides of 1, 5 und 6 . The latter results from a cleavage of a Si? C bond in 2 Producing nBuSiH₃ and LiCH₂? SiH₃ which combines with 2 to 1 . Subsequently 1 forms 5 and 6 . No higher alkylated derivatives of 1 or 2 could be detected.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. XXXVIII. Umsetzung perchlorierter Carbosilane mit LiAlH4

By LiAlH₄ (Cl₃Si)₂CH₂, (Cl₂Si? CH₂)₂SiCl₂ are reduced to (H₃Si)₂CH₂ (a), (H₃Si? CH₂)₂SiH₂ (b) and (H₂Si? CH₂)₃(c). However with the compounds (Cl₃Si)₂CCl₂, (Cl₃Si? CCl₂0₂SiCl₂ and (Cl₂Si? CCl₂)₃ cleavages of the Si? C-bond and reduction of the CCl-groups occur apart from the normal reduction of the Si-Cl-groups to (H₃Si)₂CCl₂ (d), (H₃SiCCl₂)₂SiH₂ (e) and (H₂Si? CCl₂)₃. Excess LiAlH₄ favours this cleavage, the exact amount of a quarter of a mole LiAlH₄ per SiCl-group allows the formation of (d), (e), (f). The cleavage of (e) is in accordance with: (1), (2),(3). Therefore SiH₃₄ and (H₃Si)₂CCl₂ are the main-reaction-products and CH₃SiH₃ is formed acc. to equ. (3). Because of the cleavage of (H₂Si? CCl₂)₃ with LiAlH₄ H₃Si? CCl₂? SiH₂? CH₃and H₃Si? CH₂? SiH₂? CH₂? SiH₂? CH₃ are preferentially formed after the hydrolysis. The CH₂-containing compounds (a), (b), (c) cannot be cleaved in an analogous reaction.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 67. Untersuchungen zur metallorganischen Synthese Si-methylierter und C-chlorierter Carbosilane über Chlorcarbenoide

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 67. Studies of Metallorganic Synthesis of Si-methylated and C-chlorinated Carbosilanes Using Chlorocarbenoids Synthesis and reactions of C₆H₅me₂Si? CCl₂H (A), (H₅C₆me₂Si)₂CCl₂ (B), and me₂Si(CCl₂H)₂ (C) were investigated in order to find conditions for the synthesis of C-functional carbosilanes via chlorocarbenoids. (A) and (B) react with n-butyl-Li(buLi) (?100°C/THF/ether/pentane) yielding H₅C₆me₂Si? CCl₂Li and (H₅C₆me₂Si)CClLi, respectively. These lithium reagents form (B) and(H₅C₆me₂Si)₃CCl with H₅C₆me₂SiCl. In the reaction of (H₅C₆me₂Si)₃CCl with lithium (H₅C₆me₂Si)₃CLi (D) is obtained. (D) forms with H₂O/HCl the compound (H₅C₆me₂Si)₃CH which is cleaved by HBr yielding (Brme₂Si)₃CH. (C) gives LiCCl₂? Sime₂(CCl₂H) with buLi (molar ratio 1:1) in a low temperature reaction. Clme₂Si? CCl₂? Sime₂(CCl₂H) is formed in the reaction of LiCCl₂? Sime₂? CCl₂H with Sime₂CCl₂ (yield >90%). Reacting (C) and buLi (1:3) and treating this solution with Sime₂CI₂ gives (ClSime₂)₂C?CH Sime₂Cl (>85%) via a monosilacyclopropane intermediate. In the inverse reaction, if (C) is added to buLi, (HCCl₂)me₂SiC?Sime₂(CCl₂H) is one of the isolated reaction products. If buLi is added to (C) (2:l) and this solution is treated with Sime₃Cl, compounds me₃Si? CCL₂? Sime₂? CCL₂H, me₃Si? CClH? Sime₂(CCl₂H), (me₃Si? CC1₂)₂Sime₂, me₃Si? CHCI? Sime₂? CC1₂? Sime₃ are isolated. The same products were obtained in the reaction of me₃Si? CCl₂? Sime₂? CCl₂H with buLi and me₃SiCl.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 93 [1]. Untersuchungen zum Bildungsmechanismus cyclischer Carbosilane durch Einwirkung von AlBr3

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 93. Investigations of the Mechanism of the AlBr₃ Initiated Formation of Cyclic Carbosilanes. The mechanism of the formation of ringsystems in carbosilanes with AlBr₃ is investigated using the deuterium compounds 1a and 3a . The number of deuterium atoms in the methyl groups of the reaction products shows at which points of the molecules the regrouping occurs under formation of the ringsystem. In the first initially the reaction of 1a yields D₃C? Si(CH₃)₃ and 2a under separation of a CD₃ group. The rearrangement forming 2a occurs at the marked Si? C-bonds (formula 1a ). No Al-organic intermediate compound is observed under cleavage of Si? C bond. Therefore the formation of ring-systems is based on the polarisation by the Lewis-acid AlBr₃. Compound 3a reacts in an analogous way, what is shown by the isolation of Sime₄ and 4a . The cleavage of the bonds is marked in formula 3a . The reaction of 8 forming 9 and (Sime₃)₂CH₂ follows the same mechanism; it is investigated by ¹H and ²⁷Al-NMR spectroscopy.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 77. Zur Bildung von Carbosilanen aus Methylsilanen

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 77. Formation of Carbosilanes from Methylsilanes The products formed by pyrolysis of me₃SiH, me₂SiH₂, and meSiH₃ are reported. Sime₄ and the mentioned methylsilanes were reacted in a plasma, and the products are compared to those of the pyrolysis. The pyrolysis of me₃SiH and me₂SiH₂ essentially yields the same groups of carbosilanes which are accessible by thermal decomposition of Sime₄, if the range is restricted to compounds with 4 Si atoms at most. Cylic carbosilanes are the main products of the pyrolysis of me₃SiH, and amoung these, 1,3,5-trisilacyclohexanes and 1,3,5,7-tetrasilaadamantanes are preferrently formed. From me₂SiH₂ above all linear compounds as 1,3-disilapropanes are obtained. This is attributed to the chosen experimental procedure in which they not subject to further reaction. In the pyrolysis of meSiH₃ a yellow solid is formed besides little amounts of meH₂Si? SiH₂me. Compared to the compounds formed by pyrolysis of Sime₄, the carbosilasen obtained from me₃SiH and me₂SiH₂ possess more SiH substituents. Also the decomposition of Sime₄ in a plasma preferrently yields carbosilanes, mainly linear compounds with 2 or 3 Si atoms.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 102. Zur Umsetzung von Chlormethanen mit elementarem Silicium (Bildung und Aufklärung linearer Carbosilane)

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 102. Reaction of Chlormethanes with Elemental Silicon. (Formation and Investigation of Linear Carbosilanes) Reactions of CH₂Cl₂, HCCl₃ and CCl₄ with silicon (Cu catalyst) in a fluid bed at about 320°C were carried out to investigate especially the Si-rich compounds. In the reactions of CH₂Cl₂ and CHCl₃, but not of CCl₄, in addition to already published compounds Si-rich viscous products are formed. The SiCl-containing mixtures were reacted with LiAlH₄, and the SiH-containing derivatives were separated by means of HPLC. CH₂Cl₂/Si forms unbranched chains of carbosilanes as Si_nC_n–1H_4n (n = 4—12,2 terminal SiH₃ groups) and Si_nC_nH_4n+2 (n = 4—9, 1 terminal SiH₃ and 1 CH₃ group) as well as 1,3,5-trisilacyclohexanes with carbosilane chains of various length attached either to a Si atom or to a C atom. CHCl₃/Si yields in addition to unbranched chains with terminal silyl group chains with one or two C-branches and 1,3,5-trisilacyclohexanes with 1, 2, or 3 silyl substituents attached to C atoms. The structure of the isolated compounds was investigated by nmr and mass spectrometry.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 89. Selektive Photobromierung von Si-methylierten Carbosilanen

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 89. Selective Photobromination of Si-methylated Carbosilanes A selective photobromination of the C atoms in the skeleton of Si-methylated carbosilanes is reported. (me₃Si? CH₂)₂Sime₂ reacts to me₃Si? CBr₂? Sime₂? CH₂? Sime₃ in good yields (me = CH₃); the second CH₂ group is considerably slower brominated. Photobromination of (me₂Si? CH₂)₃ consecutively yields a and b . Also from (me₂Si? CH₂)₄ the derivative with one CBr₂ group is accessible. Bromination of tertiary CH groups is highly preferred; this is shown by the selective formation of c . The C-bromination of SiBr-substituted carbosilanes is significantly more difficult; nevertheless (Brme₂Si)₂CH₂ selectively forms (Brme₂Si)₂CBr₂. Brme₂Si? CH₂? Sime₂? CH₂? Sime₃ forms Brme₂Si? CH₂? Sime₂? CBr₂? Sime₃, i. e., only the CH₂ group non-adjacent to SiBr is attacked. The formation of CHBr groups could not be detected. Higher temperatures and longer reaction times increase the formation of polymers.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 87. Das 2,8,9-Trioxa-1,3,5,7-tetrasilaadamantan

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 87. 2,8,9-Trioxa-1,3,5,7-Tetrasilaadamantane Hydrolysis of cis-cis-1,3,5-tribromo-1,3,5-tri-t-butyl-1,3,5-trisilacyclohexane yields the trisilanole 2 (mp. 205°C) which forms the tetrasilaadamantane 3 with SiCl₄/et₂NH. Hydrolysis of 3 yields 4 (Formulae see “Inhaltsübersicht”).     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 92 [1]. Bildung und Struktur des Oktamethyl-hexasila-hexascaphans

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 92. Formation and Structure of Octamethylhexasila-hexascaphane By rearrangement and abstraction of CH₄ at the presence of AlBr₃ 2 forms 3 , and 6 forms 7 , which is also obtained reacting 8 and 9 under the same condition. Lithination of 1, 1, 3, 5, 5, 7, 7, 9, 9-Nonamethyl-1, 3, 5, 7, 9-pentasiladecaline yields 12 , which is trapped with me₃SiCl to form 6 . Convertation of 13 to 14 leads to 8 by reaction with ClSi(CH₂—Sime₃)₃. Compound 7 is characterized by NMR and mass spectroscopy as well as X-ray structural analysis. 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 9, 11, 11-Octamethyl-1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11-hexasila-hexascaphane 7 crystallizes in the monoclinic space group P2₁/n (No. 14) with a = 3296.7 pm, b = 1536.2 pm, c = 891.9 pm, β 91.71° and Z = 8 formular units. Both crystallographic independent molecules have approximately the symmetry C₂. The differences of corresponding bond lengths, bond angles and torsion angles are unimportant. But there is a distinct dependence of the Si? C bond length relative to the function of the bond in the molecule (Averages: Si? C) (endo) = 188.4 pm, Si? C (exo) = 187.6 (pm).     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 100. Über die Isolierung höherer Carbosilane aus der Pyrolyse des Tetramethylsilans

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 100. Isolation of Higher Molecular Carbosilanes from the Pyrolysis Products of Tetramethylsilane A systematic investigation of the carbosilanes containing 6 to 9 Si atoms per molecule formed by pyrolysis of SiMe₄ was achieved by means of column chromatographic separations combined with HPLC. 11 pure compounds and mixtures of the isomers of 7a and 7b as well as of 11 and 15 were isolated. The predominant structure is that of the carborundanes using only Me and H as Si substituents. Only in compounds 8 and 13 some of the Si? C sixmembered rings are in the chair form. In compounds 17 and 18 another possibility of connecting 1,3,5,7-tetrasilaadamantane frameworks to higher molecular carbosilanes is realized.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 108. Thermisch induzierte Reaktionen aminosubstituierter Disilane

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 108 [1]. Thermally Induced Reactions of Amino-Substituted Disilanes Thermally induced reactions of amino-substituted disilanes yield Si rich silanes. At 300°C, Me₃Si? SiMe₂? NMeH 1 yields Me₃Si? NMeH 2 and Me₃Si? (SiMe₂)₂-NMeH 3 in a ratio 1 : 2 : 3 = 1,6 : 1 : 1, whereas Me₃Si? SiMe₂? N(iPr)H 4 at 350°C yields Me₃Si? N(iPr)H 5 , Me₃Si? (SiMe₂)₂-N(iPr)H 6 and Me₃Si? (SiMe₂)₃? N(iPr)H 7 in a ratio of 4 : 6 : 7 = 0.8 : 1.0 : 0.6. Me₃Si? SiMe₂? NMe₂ 8 at 300°C (72 h) yields Me₃Si? NMe₂ 9 and Me₃Si-(SiMe₂)₂-NMe₂ 10 in a ratio of 9 : 8 : 10 = 1 : 0.22 : 0.44 The thermal stability of these disilanes is determined by the sterical requirements of the amino substituents NMeH < NMe₂ < N(iPr)H. The introduction of a second NMe₂ group decreases the stability and favours the formation of Si rich silanes. Such, Me₂N? (SiMe₂)₂? NMe₂ 11 already at 250°C (2 h) yields Me₂N? SiMe₂? NMe₂ 12 , Me₂N? (SiMe₂)₂? NMe₂ 13 and Me₂N? (SiMe₂)₄? NMe₂ 14 in a ratio of 11 : 13 : 14 = 0.3 : 0.9 : 1.0. The reactions can be understood as insertions of thermally produced dimethylsilylene into the Si? N bond of the disilanes. This process is strongly favoured as compared to the trapping reactions with Ph? C?C? Ph or Et₃SiH. The mentioned reactions correspond closely to those of the methoxy-disilanes[2]. However (MeN? SiMe₂? SiMe₂)₂ 15 , obtained from HMeN? (SiMe₂)₂? NMeH by condensation [3], at 400°C suffers a ring contraction to octymethyl-1,3-diaza-2,4,5-trisilacyclopentane (69 weight %), and yields also some solid residue, the composition of which corresponds to Si₃C₇NH₂₁.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 86. Si-phenylierte und butylierte 1,3,5-Trisilacyclohexane

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 86. Si-phenyl and Si-butyl Substituted 1,3,5-Trisilacyclohexanes By treating (BrHSi? CH₂)₃ with phMgBr or t-buLi, resp., and subsequent separation of the isomers, the pure cis-cis substituted 1,3,5-trisilacyclohexanes I are accessible which yield II (Formula see Inhaltsübersicht) by reaction with Br₂. (F₂Si? CH₂)₃ 8 can be transferred into (ph₂Si? CH₂)₃ 7 with phLi. With HCl/AlCl₃ 7 forms (Cl₂Si? CH₂)₃, whereas even with an excess of Br₂ it only yields (phBrSi? CH₂)₃. Cleavage of 7 with one equivalent of Br₂ yields (H₂C? Si)₃ph₅Br 14, which with LiAlH₄ forms (H₂C? Si)₃ph₅H 10. 10 is not so easy to obtain via (H₂C? Si)₃ph₅F 9 from the reaction of 8 with 5 equivalents of phLi. All of the SiH and SiBr groups in I and II, resp., occupy axial positions as well as the Br atom in 14 the H atom at Si in 10 and the F atom in 9.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 98. Umsetzung silylierter Phosphorylide mit PCl3

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 98. Reaction of Silylated Phosphorus Ylides with PCl₃ The reaction of Si-substituted phosphorus ylides as Me₂Si(CH₂? SiMe₂)₂C?PMe₃Br 1 , Cl₂Si(CH₂? SiCl₂)₂C?PMe₂Cl 2 , and (Cl₃Si)₂C?PMe₂Cl 3 with PCl₃ yields (Cl₂P)₂C?PMe₂Cl 5 by chlorinating cleavage of the Si-ylid-C bond. Besides 5 also (ClMe₂SiCH₂)₂SiMe₂, (Cl₃SiCH₂)₂SiCl₂, resp. SiCl₄ result from the reaction of 1, 2 and 3 with PCl₃. (Cl₂P)₂C?PMe₂Cl forms colourless crystals, mp. 84°C.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. LVIII. Die Synthese eines Carbosilans mit Propellan-Struktur

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. LVIII. Synthesis of a Carbosilane with Propellane Structure 1 (· ? C resp. CH₂; x ? Si(CH₃)₂ resp. Si) is formed by a coupling reaction of BrSi(CH₂? Sime₂? CH₂? Sime₂Br)₃ 2 with CCl₄ and Li. The reaction of C₆H₅me₂Si? CH₂Li with Clme₂Si? CH₂Br leads to C₆H₅me₂Si? CH₂? Sime₂? CH₂Br. Metallation with lithium and succeeding reaction with Cl₃SiC₆H₅ produces compound C₆H₅Si(CH₂? Sime₂? CH₂? Sime₂C₆H₅)₃, which than forms 2 by cleavage with bromine.     

Bildung siliciumorganischer Verbindungen. 83. Bildung,Reaktionen und Struktur von Yliden aus perchlorierten Carbosilanen

Formation of Organosilicon Compounds. 83. Formation, Reactions, and Structure of Ylides Generated from Perchlorinated Carbosilanes The CCl-moiety in perchlorinated carbosilanes as (Cl₃Si)₂ a, Cl₃Si? CH₂? SiCl₂? CCl₂? SiCl₃ b, (Cl₃Si? CCl₂)₂SiCl₂ c or (Cl₂Si? CCl₂)₃ d, e.g., cleaves the Si? P bond of me₃Si? Pme₂ e (me = CH₃); and by subsequent rearrangement ylides are formed. Such, treating e with a yields (Cl₃Si)₂CPme₂Cl 1, which also results from the reaction of me₂P? Pme₂ with a. The ylides also can be obtained by means of treating the carbosilanes a, b, c or d with LiPme₂. Thus, c with one mole of LiPme₂ yields Cl₃Si? CCl₂? SiCl₂? C(Pme₂Cl)? SiCl₃ or Cl₃Si? C(Pme₂Cl)? SiCl₂? C(Pme₂Cl)? SiCl₃, resp., with two moles of LiPme₂. The corresponding Si-methylated derivates do not form ylides; (me₃Si)₂CCl₂, e.g., with e in benzene yields me₃Si? CH(Pme₂)? Sime₃. One mole of Lime methylates 1 to yield (Cl₃Si)₂CPme₃ 11. With either LiPme₂, me₃Si? Pme₂ or Me₂P? Pme₂ 1 forms (Cl₃Si)₂CPme₂-Pme₂. Reacting 1 with CH₃OH/(C₂H₅)₂NH, (Cl₃Si)[SiCl₂(OCH₃)]CPme₂(OCH₃) is formed. Ylides also result from the reactions of partially C-chlorinated 1,1,3,3,5,5-hexachloro-1,3,5-trisilacyclohexanes with me₃Si? Pme₂, (Cl₂Si? CCl₂)₃ with three moles of me₃Si? Pme₂ or LiPme₂, resp., yields (Cl₂Si? CPme₂Cl)₃ 16, the 1,1,3,3,5,5-Hexachlor-2,4,6-tris(chlordimethylphosphoranyliden)-1,3,5-trisilacyclohexan, which crystallizes with one mole of monoglyme. X-ray structure determinations revealed that 1, 11 and 16 are planar. As well the (P? C) as the (Si? C) bond lengths are remarkably shortened; in 1 (P? C) to 173.3 pm, (Si? C) to 173.3 pm, (Si? C) to 179.5 pm, in 16 (P? C) to 168.7 pm, (Si? C) to 180 pm. The (Si? C) and (P? C) bond orders amount to about 1.33, and are relatively equally distributed. Therefore, the charge of the formal carbanion is equally distributed, which shall be expressed by means of the following kind of writing for 1 and 16 see “Inhaltsübersicht”.